These guys don't recognize these situations for what they are, so make small raises or flat call instead. In something like razz or stud8, it's too easy to see that you are 'ahead right now', or have a monster draw, or are otherwise virtually guaranteed to have the equity to shove on an early street. It should be much more of a shovefest than it is, which is why it keeps going. This is also the game with 40bb stacks (used to 1/1 nlhe, but evolved to this HORSE bastard child with $1 button ante + $1 bringin for stud games, $2 button ante in flop games. These guys are more-or-less clueless about poker math, so it works. I play in a semi-regular game of no-limit DC with HORSE games. Have any of you experimented with big-bet stud, or played it with any regularity? Did you encounter any challenges or have any interesting results? A 'stud stack' should be a little deeper than a 'hold'em stack,' measured in bring-ins rather than big blinds. Sure, there are a lot of streets, so you account for that with the ante and bring-in relative to what people are playing for. I'd imagine that PL is better because it prevents the early streets from getting too stupid, just like Omaha.

I know that stud is traditionally played fixed- or spread-limit, but I've personally played it both of those ways as well as no-limit, and I don't see why NL/PL stud is off the table in most venues. I didn't end up doing it-this crowd was very biased toward big-bet flop games-but I think that playing PL or NL may have gotten some of them more interested in stud. After a recent night at a somewhat wild dealer's choice game, I was tempted a couple times to call a pot-limit stud game.

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